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I don’t think what you believe is at odds with feminism either, really. Maybe in the mind of the most fundamentalist sex-positive but a woman doing what’s best for her emotional health isn’t self-hating.

Susannah Breslin had an excellent article in Forbes talking about these kinds of inconsistencies:

How Feminism Became a Joke

18Jennifer September 20, 2011 at 4:45 pm
That article was dead-on about feminism, but I agree with Steinem (and that’s rare) that waitresses in Playboy are little more than strippers. That doesn’t make those women victims, though; it makes them self-objectifying dumbies ready to degrade themselves for money.

19Susan Walsh September 20, 2011 at 4:47 pm
@GudEnuf
FYI, I notified Steph that the post was up, and invited her to join us. I don’t know if she will but probably not before later in the day.

I think you’re parsing her words too much there. Don’t forget, she wrote me a note of thanks, she wasn’t really expecting me to slap it up here. I think what she means is that if she wants to be respected, treated kindly and have a fulfilling relationship, she has to stop hooking up. In other words, women objectify and debase themselves with casual sex and the follow-up white knuckling of cell phones. They don’t have the right to ask for something better until they stop settling for something worse.

I think the real admission here is that sex is not empowering beyond a certain short-term male validation that it provides, a good feeling that evaporates quickly and leaves the woman decidedly worse off than she was before. Women do want relationships, not disconnected sex.

20Player87 September 20, 2011 at 5:05 pm
This is great post.

I agree women deserve respect, especially women who respect themselves. If guys don’t treat women with respect, the ones that do respect themselves will be out of their reach.

Yes there are girls out there, that will be bad for you. Guys need to understand how to approach women in the right way, and this includes treating girls with kindness, which is currently overlooked by guys.

21detinennui32 September 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm
@ Yohami:

“Thing is, she and her friends are value takers. They are seeking for reassuring themselves, filling their self esteem, looking for validation through association with what they perceive as high value men and doing role playing, while ignoring their real feelings and needs, and the jar gets depleted shortly after because its broken. In other words, they are sick.